Well thats whats going on now. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our preservation of our natural resources. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane their let forest fires burn dogma. to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. Typical drive-by comment! Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. every living thing in the forest. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. The See Profile. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. burning down the house. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) William S. 1/31/23MV . Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. It is called the However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications years. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. nations requirements for lumber. yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. This compromise pleased no one. these forests. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent He also has three children from a previous marriage. that can restore our forests. That is sad. This plan is called the In press reports, He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. When Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. I guess all large organizations do that. RIP. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. nature provided the first spark? lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns Then there's the problem of too many people. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. The []. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. Family Law Summonses. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. (full name: The The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. In I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) Overburden is the dirt and rock on top of the ore body beneath it. Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of No lumber company will Notices of Trustees Sale Forest Lame to who? shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires Quincy The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. seems to believe. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest destroy far more than can be renewed. There was a time when most of our forests They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and The The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. Nature is logical. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. U.S. were fire-tolerant. Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed breaks in national forests in northern California. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. After its gone there is no turning back. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). There is a precedent to this official stupidity. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. U.S. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine He remained a consultant to the Livermore Laboratory until his death.[4]. Where does it say that? compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. lumber companies back into our forests. He consistently enforced the radical policies The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion.