Gilded Drake: One of the more undervalued answers in blue, if you want my opinion. DMCA requests | Long-Term Plans makes you wait 3 turns unless youve got some other manipulation going on like Senseis Divining Top. The only downside is not having Jeleva which is typically your backup plan. Consecrated Sphinx: The Sphinx is a good card to ramp into and drop early, if you have it. Top16. Infinite tokens. It's fearsome that you have the potential to cast three spells for eight mana. Open now : 11:00 AM - 12:00 AM. Commander Showdown Yidris vs Maelstrom Wanderer. This has to be one of the best cards for the deck in the last year or two. [[Vannifar]] has an infinite win line with maelstrom out and can get it from any creature on the battlefield. Attention! If any of those additional cascades are additional creatures, you can continue on, exiling them for additional mana. Ancestral Vision - This card was added since I didn't have another place to put it and I love the card, but since I have added it, it has only benefited me. Add in as much artifact and land ramp as you can, and presto! EDHREC Home Commanders Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder As Card Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder (Commander) $7.99 $6.71 0.76 TIX 4425 decks (0.202%) Rank #108 Navigation By Theme By Budget All Cheap Expensive Links Aetherhub Archidekt Deckstats Moxfield MTGGoldfish MTGStocks Scryfall Average Type Distribution This is a subreddit dedicated to playing the Commander format of Magic: The Gathering at the highest power level possible. Exploration - I enjoy playing lands so much, that I wanted to put down an additional one every turn, especially since I can draw a lot of cards very quickly May replace with Burgeoning. He seems much slower than other combo decks. Complete Comment Tutorial! To any Tier 2 competitive deck, Wanderer was a joke. As more testing and tweaks are made, Ill add additional cut cards here as well; for now, this is the most updated list I have. I dislike this combo the most, as it dies hard to a lot of pillowfort strategies and instant-speed removal. Warstorm Surge/Purphoros: Ill generally drop Purphoros if I have nothing else to do, because hes indestructible, so I have little fear of anyone actually dealing with him. Complete Comment Tutorial! That may change in the future as I experiment with different versions of the deck and what it can do, cutting chafe and so on..but right now, I feel confident that Wanderer can handle anything that doesnt intent to win by turn 3. I am looking for competitive "multiplayer" lists of Maelstrom wanderer. Copied to clipboard. I'm sorry if this is not your typical primer, I've never done one before, but I enjoy this deck so much and wanted it to have some sort of a primer. The best Commander competition @Hareruya (Japan) 51. Maelstrom Wanderer is an 8 cost 7/5 Temur Legendary Elemental Creature that grants your creatures haste and has cascade, cascade. If you're going to play maelstorm I would say play yidris instead and have him in as the 99 with the value you gain from cascading spells into rocks and other free mana a turn 4 maelstorm into 4 cascade triggers is amazing. You dont particularly care how many times you can do this, as long as you can hit your combo pieces while doing it, because when you combo off, Wanderer becomes free and you can cascade through everything. He's fun in the right meta, but a total glass canon. Youre not particularly ramping into anything - youre not trying to hit Wanderer mana as soon as possible - but the value it can give you if you start chaining dudes together is undeniable. Frh am Dom. Spoiler Timeline. the Maelstrom deck generates immense value but cant close out the game and now we have a situation where they can drop bomb-after-bomb. I've been trying for cedh maelstrom with birthing pod theme but this looks like it might be more consistent.2 questions: How are you emptying your deck for the jace/ thassa win? Ramping to Wanderer was all there was, and if I didnt hit Wanderer early, I probably wasnt winning that game. Counterspells in Maelstrom Wanderer are often extremely effective, because who the hell runs counterspells in a Wanderer deck?? Imperial Animar lists can be very strong and very fast, but based on the strategy theyre trying to push theres not a lot of room for actual control, and the deck frequently loses to any tier 1 strategy or well-placed removal on Animar himself. Temur Sabertooth - He bounces Maelstrom Wanderer back to my hand to help me cascade some more, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre - besides being the only spell I cannot cascade into, he is mainly there as utility against decking myself or people who are trying to mill me (we have a player like that in my current meta) Eventually will be replaced with Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. I see your deck while browsing Moxfield, interesting conception, dont u think about trying [[Lurking Predators]] in it? fine jewelry collections; crash course statistics. 7) Dualcaster Mage + Sublime Epiphany: Infinite card draw for any player. Wanderer doesnt care about combat damage, and in fact doesnt even really care about casting your commander at all unless it wins the game that turn. youre pretty much willing to sacrifice anything to get to one of your combo pieces. Deck List, He was definitely better with partials but tier 2 sounds about right. Rhystic is the same, providing incremental card advantage over the course of the game - it will either draw you a metric ton of cards, or it slows down your more experienced players, who will wisely decide to pay the 1 instead of giving you the card. Combo Wanderer has two immediate weaknesses that come to mind: Fast combo/control: Zur, ANT Sidisi, Yisan, Tasigurthese decks can pretty much ignore what were doing as they either develop their own board, or just combo off without caring. Rarity (main - side) 38 - 0 Mythic Rares. Barring opponent shenanigans, an end-of-turn Long-Term Plans lets you set up your cascade perfectly, getting you any card you need to finish comboing off. March of the Machine Card Previews; Prices; Daily Video Reviews; Phyrexia: All Will Be One Card Previews; Prices; Daily Video Reviews; Cards . - by cascading into Regrowth and similar cards to put them back in hand or into the library. Omnath, Locus of Mana - Besides being a target for kill spells that might otherwise go to other creatures, he helps store mana for use at a later point in time while buffing himself up. The problems start to appear once you try to go off consistently with Food Chain. Either way, I'm happy. He would have to have 3-4 ramp cards to hit the board by turn 4, which is quite a stretch compared to something like Tazri FC or Zur Doomsday who don't need as much ramp and are far more consistent. Xenagos, the Reveler - Xenagos comes with a bit of built in protection, plus he helps ramp, which is great when your commander is an eight drop. This annoying message will go away once you do. Repeat for infinite mana of all colors. One of the strengths of Combo Wanderer is its ability to sit quietly, unassuming, stopping any majorly annoying plans from seeing fruition until you can pull the trigger on one of your own combos. RRUU in pool. Food Chain: The majority of the ramp in this deck is creature based to synergize with Food Chain. Pathbreaker Ibex Im playing this deck for 5-6 years, it has gone through a lot of changes over time, I won 4 out of 5 semi-competitive tournaments in my area and looking here for maybe some ideas for improvement. The faster we hit Food Chain, the more likely we are to win. Commander / EDH Treasonous Ogre - Life for mana? Going through cards like [[Kioras Follower]]->[[Pestermite]]->[[Fatestitcher]]->[[Zealous conscripts]]->Unearth Fatestitcher -> kiki Jiki But, Vannifar can make simpler plays like tutoring dockside by killing a bird. Feeds | The difference is Sliver will just be stronger due to having B for tutors and W for Silence effects. Other people can view your private deck by using this url, Seems there are no cards in the Acquireboard. win and just drop a Birthing Pod into Conscripts into Kiki into win. Desperate for a land? These are pretty typical, but for reference: Tooth and Nail: If unanswered, will win you the game. I will point out what I would recommend as a replacement where applicable, so without further ado, here is the Maelstrom Wanderer. 2.1) with infinite mana you get infinite damage with infinite recasts of maelstrom with deadeye (pair/exile) or food chain or temur sabertooth (bouncing) or evolutionary leap (sac) or kiki jiki (legendary rule), flameshadow conjuring and infinite hasty palinchron tokens, 2.2) tooth and nail combo: deadeye and palinchron for infinite mana and infinite recasts of maelstrom, 3) Eternal Witness or archaeomancer + Time Warp or Temporal Manipulation + Dead Eye Navigator: infinite Turns, 4) food chain and squee: infinite colored mana. Infinite Combo Oracle of Mul Daya - Playing lands is great. I can't think of any other ways to fetch it besides Gamble, which is obviously a gamble. Downsides of course are it doesnt stop oracle consult. Additionally, we can cascade in whatever order we want, as the cards we dont want to cast simply go on the bottom of the library, to be cascaded into again. Specific tutors can find you what you need, but of course have RUGs peculiar little twists with them: Bring To Light, Foresight/Manipulate Fate, Gamble, Selective Memory, Impulse, Intuition, Long-Term Plans and Worldly Tutor all either search for specific types of cards, OR have the very strong possibility of screwing you over when theyre supposed to help you. For instance Lord of Tesserhorn is listed tier 5, but you could easily copy and paste a grixis storm list and be able to compete at tier 1/2. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I feel I don't really have to explain this one, since most of you know what it does, but I will anyways. He seems much slower than other combo decks. You can now import it in the MTG Arena client. Misthollow Griffin You may opt-out at any time. It was frustrating to be like every other Wanderer deck out there; it was frustrating to know that my opponents could destroy something like a Grim Monolith, and set me back from any meaningful game plan for several turns. + You can now import it in the MTG Arena client. As such, dont feel bad about using Sylvan Library to full effect, drawing three cards a turn. Once we have infinite mana, we can then cast Maelstrom Wanderer an infinite amount of times, cascading through our entire library. Fact or Fiction - I like drawing cards, and I feel I've made that pretty clear here. Pod line: Sacrifice Archmage to Pod to find Conscripts, untapping Pod, and then Pod the persisted Archmage into Kiki-Jiki. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network, TCGplayer.com, CardKingdom.com, CardConduit.com, Cardhoarder.com, MTGOTraders.com. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. My MW deck. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Keeper of the Book of Knowledge, Wielder of Maelstroms. Pretty sure competitive RUG rankings go Animar>MW>Riku>Others. Will eventually be replaced with Mystical Tutor. 7 - 0 Uncommons. The Creatures: Finally the part that is most crucial to the deck. And I certainly wasnt going to win any games against the truly competitive decks. People who thought I was ramping to hit Wanderer as fast as possible were shocked when I hit their combos with Spell Pierces and Force of Wills, cards that are traditionally terrible in this deck. Yeah, this, if left unanswered, ends games. Feeds | The Artifacts: As you can see, the artifacts aren't a large chunk of the deck, and are mostly just the standard ramp package. Commander / EDH* Your cards dont have to cost a lot of mana to do great things. This was one of the first non-combo cards suggested to me, and since I've added it, it has been really helpful. If you hit late game, things have definitely gone awry, but that doesnt mean you cant come back from it. There are a lot of infinite combos that circulate around this one card, including helping to activate the Splinter Twin combo, Misthollow Griffin - Used to help cascade through our library when combined with Food Chain. Can fetch Purph+Griffin if you already have Food Chain; Kiki+Conscripts to just kill the table, DEN+Palinchron to get infinite mana, or can just search up things like Rec Sage and Glen Elendra Archmage to protect your game plan or destroy something thats stopping you from going off. This also means you can re-use certain cards if necessary - if theyre destroyed, countered, etc. I play exclusively EDH now, with the occasional delve into Legacy if the event feels right. Regrowth/Noxious Revival/Natures Spiral/Eternal Witness/Skullwinder: Beyond the usual uses of being able to re-use ramp or removal, these cards also allow you to use things like Intuition to great effect, tutoring for one of your combo pieces and immediately pulling it back to your hand; they also allow you to cycle through multiples pieces of your deck as youre infinitely cascading, for instance using Hull Breach to annihilate an opponents entire board (necessary against a stax player) before being able to win. The spell you cast due to the first cascade ability will go on the stack on top of the second cascade ability. I've always loved the control of blue, the ramp and big creature of green, and the ferocity and destruction of red. Maelstrom Wanderer is a unique creature because its base power and toughness aren't the only big things on it. Vexing Shusher - Can be used as a political tool, but mostly is used to make sure my stuff doesn't get countered. At MTGGoldfish, we value your privacy. I also have a Thrasios/Tymna Medium Midrange as my second cEDH deck, to compete against normal cEDH decks . Food Chain Suggestions. This collection is out of date, you may to see the latest version [EDH] Maelstrom Keruga Commander / EDH RUG (Temur) Emzed Creature (33) 1x Agent of Treachery 1x Angrath's Marauders 1x Apex Devastator 1x Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle 1x Beanstalk Giant 1x Cavalier of Thorns 1x Drakuseth, Maw of Flames 1x Enigma Thief 1x Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma Casual Yidris greatest asset is the addition of black in the commander cost; if Maelstrom Wanderer was exactly the same but had black in his cost, I truly believe this deck would be unstoppable. Tooth and Nail - Instant Win-Con. Recast maelstrom and sac him infinite times, 5) mass bounce spell + eternal witness or archaeomancer: bounce all nonland permanents every turn, 1) Palinchron + Riku of Two Reflections + 7 lands: infinite Palinchron tokens and infinite colored This looks like a cEDH deck. In most builds, your early plan for Wanderer consists of one thing: Ramp. Feeds | 4.1) and zealous conscripts: Playing two lands from the top of my library, wells that is just the cherry on top. It's too easy to disrupt his ramp which shuts his plan down entirely, and even the fastest lists which can power him out pretty reliably by turn 5 or 6 do so by sacrificing all their early game interaction to dump all their dorks and rocks onto the board. Copied to clipboard. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Being able to wait until the last minute to cast a spell really brings out the Blue player in me, and I have always loved having it down. Gamble is the textbook example of this, and I will often not cast Gamble unless its in the first few turns of the game when my hand is 5+ cards. Its generally worth the investment, even tapping down on Mana Vault or Monolith, as the card advantage if it makes it around the table even once is worth it. Future tweaks to the decklist will be things like tightening up the mana base (seeing how low on lands I can actually go before impacting draws); improving the artifact mana base with things like Mana Crypt, and upping the amount of reactive spells like countermagic. Updated Feb 28, 2023 by xequemate using our MTG Deck Builder. Privacy statement | Venser, Shaper Savant - He helps me get rid of pesky Blightsteel/Darksteel Colossi and the like. Remand - This card allows me to either counter an opponent's spell, or put Maelstrom back into my hand and draw a card. A copy is created even if the spell that caused Kalamax's ability to trigger has been countered by the time that ability resolves. Does it generate a lot of hate? Help | Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Jodah, Archmage Eternal EdH deck. Maelstrom Wanderer. This will require TappedOut.js included in your blog. Nontheless i like your deck and concept and wish you good Luck with it, but it wont compete against "normal" cEDH decks. Contact | I hope this has given you at least the beginnings of an idea on a different take on Maelstrom Wanderer; its actually a lot of fun to play, uses what I would consider the easier win conditions in competitive EDH, and can definitely give any deck not on its toes a good run for its money. Copied to clipboard. + But is it really better than having access to white and Black? If you can get one more mana from somewhere or if any of your creatures costed more than three or you had more than two creatures.continue on.So you get at least 3 double cascades, 6 spells, with just that. RUG (Temur), Casual EDH Deck with many infinite Combos, 2) Palinchron + Dead Eye Navigator or phantasmal image or vorinclex (or flameshadow conjuring or Sneak Attack): infinite colored mana. You have helped me tune my deck and I wanted to share it with you in depth. Maelstrom Wanderer EDH: GrowingPaynes - -74 tix: $ 394: 2023-02-05: Maelstrom Wanderer: Zylozs - -115 tix: $ 3,462: 2023-02-04: Cascade 2. . Press J to jump to the feed. Best case scenario, I cascade into and draw 3 free cards and worst case, I have to wait a few turns. This card, while it does give your opponent a choice in the matter, can make things very difficult for them, since it causes them to choose which cards you want, and most cards in the deck are highly synergistic. Combo Wanderer has become one of my best decks, and because people are always expecting a certain sort of playstyle from certain generals, I can win games that often times I had no business winning, even among the competitive generals. This is why, for instance, Enigma Sphinx saw a fair amount of usage at first, followed in time by Etherium-Horn Sorcerer and Maelstrom Wanderer, the latter of which quickly vaulted in demand. This site is unaffiliated. Nacatl War-Pride I recently made a Temur deck that I am disappointed in and I'm looking to change it up a bit. Complete Comment Tutorial! One big issue I see with your deck is that you focus far too much on Maelstrom Wanderer himself. Jace, the Mind Sculptor - Brainstorm. You can now import it in the MTG Arena client. And thats the question in CEDH. Destructive Force - Much like Boom//Bust, this is used to help clear the field, and since there are many tiny creatures, this helps a lot. 13 - 0 Uncommons. In its place, I put in competitive EDHs best combos for the colors, and I shifted the focus of the deck from cast Wanderer to find the combo. So being able to selectively thin your deck is pretty powerful. > General goes unblocked and the defending player has to handle X 3/3s that all have trample and +7/+7. Like most of you, I think, I began playing Maelstrom Wanderer because I wanted to cast a lot of big, stupid creatures for free, and smash my opponents for as much combat damage to the face as possible. Help | All emails include an unsubscribe link. In complete honesty, most big, flashy spells have been tested and cut. You may enjoy playing Combo Wanderer if you: Like having a win condition safe and sound in the command zoneEnjoy interacting/reacting with your opponentsLike when a game ends the same way 90% of the time. Out came the dragons, the Jokulhaups, the Avenger. I Agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. This annoying message will go away once you do. Our second combo functions in much the same way: the typical Deadeye Navigator + Palinchron infinite mana loop. Let the copied epiphany resolve, having a token of Dualcaster etb. Commander / EDH I would leave out everything that costs more then the wanderer and include release to the winds, more artifact (fast) mana and palinchron for the dockside extortionist. DMCA requests | This annoying message will go away once you do. Terms of Use | When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC Commander Showdown is a series that compares and contrast two similar commanders, analyzes differences in strategy and deck construction, and evaluates how those differences are represented by the data here on EDHREC. Warstorm Surge on the other hand, will deal more damage overall, but is also more fragile and tends to draw a lot of hate (for obvious reasons). Contact | Future updates to my list may include ways to gift creatures to opponents with cards such as Forbidden Orchard, to maximize my ability to just go Oops, I win.Birthing Pod: An easy way to find any of the 4+ creatures you can combo off with, this will also directly just win you the game with Glen Elendra Archmage: Sacrifice the four-drop Archmage to find Zealous Conscripts; Archmage will persist back into play. I simple dont see it as geared towards a cEDH meta. The Problem with Wanderer is why you would prefer him over the First Sliver? This monstrously big, unbelievably stupid powerful card would go on to pretty much encapsulate exactly how I like to play the game for the rest of my Magic career: play big, stupid creatures for as little mana as possible, damn the consequences. If you are a resident of California, you have the right under the CCPA to opt out of the sale of personal information to third parties. This card is a bomb. This annoying message will go away once you do. Intuition: Choose the opponent who hasn't seen the Food Chain soft combo before and stack it against obvious threats they've seen win games like Tooth and Nail and Consecrated Sphinx. 47% of 17 decks +47% synergy. Purphoros, God of the Forge - Used to get around people that have pillow forted themselves with hexproof and the like, when combined with almost any of my combos, he will win me the game. Wizards of the Coast, Magic: The Gathering, and their logos are trademarks of Wizards of the Coast LLC. This becomes deadly to my opponents if I have any of the Splinter Twin/Food Chain/Palinchron combos out. [[Tibalts Trickery]] and [[Mana Drain]] refund your spell, while [[Red Elemental Blast]] and [[Pyroblast]] can also destroy blue permanents. The win conditions are the same as most other highly competitive decks: Necrotic Ooze Combo, Hermit Druid, and/or Laboratory Maniac. Thanks in advance. I certainly CAN recover from losing a tutored-for card, but its a huge liability and often not worth it. This combo works by exiling the Griffin or Scourge to Food Chain for X+1 colored mana; you use X of that mana to re-cast from exile the Griffin/Scourge, netting a single mana. Solid tier 2. Were also not super concerned with our life total; because were not running black, we dont run any self-harm effects such as Necropotence, Phyrexian Arena, etc; no life payments for us to drop our own life totals precipitously. Review. However, this is a flex slot. Generally speaking youre only going to hit turn 8 or so, anyway, so the life loss is negligible. Digging for Food Chain? That's his primary function.